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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2012, 09:02:46 PM »
I have to be honest, I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with you playing as the US :ermm:
I was hoping Crane would Play America.

But it seems he has some unforeseen plan, maybe.

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2012, 09:29:38 PM »
Let people play what they want, its already going to be difficult enough for the allies with human italy and human germany and another possible two human axis players

Anyway, the Netherlands had 4 light cruisers (with another one almost done) and enough destroyers, however they had several plans for large scale expansion of their fleet (and weren't subject to the treaty)

Italy has 5 ww1 era battleships (Conte de Cavour, Giulio Ceasare, Leonardo da Vinci, Andrea Doria, Ciao Duilio) and 4 modern Littorio Class battleships in construction (Littorio, Vittorio Venetio, Roma and one other), 7 heavy cruisers and 12 light cruisers with 2 more planned
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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2012, 09:42:42 PM »
Japan had a serious lack of automatic weapons but had some really mean tactics (banzai charges, booby traps etc.) if that helps you decide.
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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2012, 09:48:25 PM »
What about this?
I didn't say they had a complete lack of automatic weapons. They did have them, but in very small numbers, and it was mostly low-ranking officers that used them. Normal infantry men used little more than an Arisaka and the bayonet attached to it.

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2012, 09:50:52 PM »
Spoiler for German Reich:
Nation Name: German Reich



Leader: Fuhrer Adolf Hitler



Territory: Germany, Austria, Rhineland, Sudetenland



Nationality: German

Description of Nationality: The German people have had to live under the humiliating terms of the Treaty of Versailles for years. However in 1933 that all changed when Adolf Hitler rose to power as the Chancellor of Germany, and eventually as Fuhrer after the death of President Paul von Hindenburg. The average German is very supportive of Hitler and the Nazi regime. The German Reich is made out Germans, German Austrians, Sudeten Germans and Czechoslovaks.

Population:



Society: Society of Nazi Germany is not all too different from western society, though it is more conformist and corporatist, and propagandized.

Religion: Mix of Protestant and Catholic, though the population is becoming more Nazified and certain church officials are beginning to be pressured by Nazi officials.



Government: National Socialist Single-party State

Economy: Mixed economy



Military: The German military, recently renamed the Wehrmacht is once again a force to be reckoned with. It is a professional force of around 550,000 in 1938. The Heer (Army) of the Wehrmacht has pioneered concepts such as combined-arms with the Luftwaffe and mission-based tactics. The Luftwaffe (Airforce) is also a professional airforce, who gained valuable combat experience during the Spanish Civil War, and concentrates on fighters and (small) tactical bombers, like the Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighter and the Junkers Ju 87 (Stuka) dive bomber. The Kriegsmarine (Navy) has few numbers of surface vessels, due to restrictions of the Washington and London Naval Treaties. However the Kriegsmarine does operate a formidable U-Boat fleet.



Technology: Currently the German Reich has a mix of modern and pre-war equipment, though German engineers and scientists are pioneering new technologies for the Reich.

National Focus: German nationalism, military might, racial purity



Background: The background of Nazi Germany follows the proper historical timeline until October 11th, 1938. Adolf Hitler rose to power as Chancellor in 1933, and became Fuhrer in 1934 following President Hindenburg's death. Germany pulled out of the League of Nations in 1933, in 1935 the Saarland rejoined Germany and the Rhineland was remilitarized. In 1936 Germany intervened in the Spanish Civil War in support of Franco's Fascists, and in 1938 completed its Anschluss of Austria and by October 10th had occupied the sudetenland in Czechoslovakia.



Alliances: Rome-Berlin Axis, Anti-Comintern Pact

Trading Agreements: Kingdom of Italy, Empire of Great Japan



Strengths: Currently the Wehrmacht is the most powerful force on Continental Europe. The Wehrmacht currently is the only organization to use combined-arms and mission-based tactics, and the Luftwaffe has gained valuable experience with the Spanish Civil War. Germany's U-Boats are also currently unmatched.

Germany also has the lowest unemployment rate in Europe, a devoted and loyal population, and a formidable industrial base.

Weakness: Germany's Blitzkrieg tactics, if not properly managed and planned out can lead to overextended supply lines, and its Anti-Semitism and past actions have left it with few allies.



Best Infantry Unit: Waffen-SS

Best Armoured Unit: Panzer II

Best Naval Unit: U-Boat

Best Airforce Unit: Me-109

Crane, I need you to look over this, see how accurate it is.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2012, 09:59:27 PM by Grif101 »
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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2012, 09:56:08 PM »
"Churches persecuted by Nazi officials".

What? The way I learnt it, Hitler sought to enforce a highly Roman Catholic society, and banished all other religions as well as Atheism (especially Atheism).

« Last Edit: September 20, 2012, 09:57:49 PM by Grif101 »

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2012, 09:58:29 PM »
"Churches persecuted by Nazi officials".

What? The way I learnt it, Hitler sought to enforce a highly Roman Catholic society, and banished all other religions as well as Atheism (especially Atheism).

Hmmm...typo. I meant to say certain Church officials, let me change that.
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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2012, 10:00:01 PM »
"Churches persecuted by Nazi officials".

What? The way I learnt it, Hitler sought to enforce a highly Roman Catholic society, and banished all other religions as well as Atheism (especially Atheism).
Common Misconception.

Hitler Hated Christian and he actually had propaganda put into the Bibles, getting rid of the original Bibles.

He rewrote the Bible to make it say that God hated jews and Such.

It is sorta a biased view in history to think Christians were unaffected.

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2012, 10:01:04 PM »
Hmmm...typo. I meant to say certain Church officials, let me change that.
The Nazis plopped Pro Nazi Officials in their place, and removed....Unwanted Priests.

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2012, 10:03:17 PM »
The Nazis plopped Pro Nazi Officials in their place, and removed....Unwanted Priests.

Pretty much...
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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2012, 10:04:18 PM »
Common Misconception.

Hitler Hated Christian and he actually had propaganda put into the Bibles, getting rid of the original Bibles.

He rewrote the Bible to make it say that God hated jews and Such.

It is sorta a biased view in history to think Christians were unaffected.

So the state religion was...Nazi?

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2012, 10:05:59 PM »
So the state religion was...Nazi?
Yep....

Crazy as it sounds he implemented things like his crazy theories on the Aryan race and crap.

Hitler was crazy for the Occult, he was so far from Christianity its crazy.

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2012, 10:06:08 PM »
Spoiler for The United Kingdom:
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland


Leader: Neville Chamberlain, King George VI


Territory: Controls all of England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar, Malta, Egypt, large portions of Land in Africa, South Africa, India, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, some of the Caribbean, the Falkland Islands and Burma



Nationality: Nearly Every ethnicity under the sun
Description of Nationality:

Population: 532 Million Across the Empire, mostly in India, including 47 million at home


Society: By this point in time British society resembles modern western society, with slight class divisions still apparent

Religion: Anglican, Hindu, Muslim, Catholic primarily


Government: Parliamentary Democracy
Economy: Free Market Capitalism


Military: The Armed forces of the United Kingdom are a small well trained professional force, the upper command is still influenced by world war one ideas however, except in the role of air power

Technology: The United Kingdom is on the leading edge for technologies such as cryptography, anti tank guns, air craft and ships and not too far behind germany in armored vehicle production

National Focus: The current national focus is on expanding the Royal Air Force


Background: The United Kingdom is currently the worlds leading power , controlling a quarter of the worlds surface and having one of the largest fleets in the world. Despite this their power is waning. World War One and the upkeep of the Empire have drained their economy, and successive pacifist governments have let the once mighty fleet languish. With the rise of new Superpowers like the USSR, USA and Germany its all England can do to keep their place in the world.



Alliances: France, and the semi autonomous nations like Canada, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand

Trading Agreements: England trades with most nations


Strengths: Well trained forces supported by a strong technological and industrial base, powerful navy and air force

Weakness: The high command is mostly aristocratic WW1 era fops, low in numbers, unwillingness to take large casualties


Best Infantry Unit: A young Captain David Stirling has this idea for a group of men called the SAS

Best Armoured Unit: While not yet in service, the Infantry tank Matilda mk II is one of the most heavily armored tanks in the world with 80mm frontal armor and the excellent 2pdr gun. However, new advances in technology may soon render it obsolete.

Best Naval Unit: The planned King George V class battleship, soon to enter service has 10 14 inch guns and thick armor, also mounts a modern fire control system unlike any seen in the world.

Best Airforce Unit: The Supermarine Spitfire
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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2012, 10:06:34 PM »
So the state religion was...Nazi?

Not sure what it was really...though I know the Nazi's were heavily involved in the Occult.
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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2012, 10:08:42 PM »
Spoiler for German Reich:
Nation Name: German Reich



Leader: Fuhrer Adolf Hitler



Territory: Germany, Austria, Rhineland, Sudetenland



Nationality: German

Description of Nationality: The German people have had to live under the humiliating terms of the Treaty of Versailles for years. However in 1933 that all changed when Adolf Hitler rose to power as the Chancellor of Germany, and eventually as Fuhrer after the death of President Paul von Hindenburg. The average German is very supportive of Hitler and the Nazi regime. The German Reich is made out Germans, German Austrians, Sudeten Germans and Czechoslovaks.

Population:



Society: Society of Nazi Germany is not all too different from western society, though it is more conformist and corporatist, and propagandized.

Religion: Mix of Protestant and Catholic, though the population is becoming more Nazified and certain church officials are beginning to be pressured by Nazi officials.



Government: National Socialist Single-party State

Economy: Mixed economy



Military: The German military, recently renamed the Wehrmacht is once again a force to be reckoned with. It is a professional force of around 550,000 in 1938. The Heer (Army) of the Wehrmacht has pioneered concepts such as combined-arms with the Luftwaffe and mission-based tactics. The Luftwaffe (Airforce) is also a professional airforce, who gained valuable combat experience during the Spanish Civil War, and concentrates on fighters and (small) tactical bombers, like the Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighter and the Junkers Ju 87 (Stuka) dive bomber. The Kriegsmarine (Navy) has few numbers of surface vessels, due to restrictions of the Washington and London Naval Treaties. However the Kriegsmarine does operate a formidable U-Boat fleet.



Technology: Currently the German Reich has a mix of modern and pre-war equipment, though German engineers and scientists are pioneering new technologies for the Reich.

National Focus: German nationalism, military might, racial purity



Background: The background of Nazi Germany follows the proper historical timeline until October 11th, 1938. Adolf Hitler rose to power as Chancellor in 1933, and became Fuhrer in 1934 following President Hindenburg's death. Germany pulled out of the League of Nations in 1933, in 1935 the Saarland rejoined Germany and the Rhineland was remilitarized. In 1936 Germany intervened in the Spanish Civil War in support of Franco's Fascists, and in 1938 completed its Anschluss of Austria and by October 10th had occupied the sudetenland in Czechoslovakia.



Alliances: Rome-Berlin Axis, Anti-Comintern Pact

Trading Agreements: Kingdom of Italy, Empire of Great Japan



Strengths: Currently the Wehrmacht is the most powerful force on Continental Europe. The Wehrmacht currently is the only organization to use combined-arms and mission-based tactics, and the Luftwaffe has gained valuable experience with the Spanish Civil War. Germany's U-Boats are also currently unmatched.

Germany also has the lowest unemployment rate in Europe, a devoted and loyal population, and a formidable industrial base.

Weakness: Germany's Blitzkrieg tactics, if not properly managed and planned out can lead to overextended supply lines, and its Anti-Semitism and past actions have left it with few allies.



Best Infantry Unit: Waffen-SS

Best Armoured Unit: Panzer II

Best Naval Unit: U-Boat

Best Airforce Unit: Me-109

Crane, I need you to look over this, see how accurate it is.

Looks pretty good
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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2012, 10:08:55 PM »
Not sure what it was really...though I know the Nazi's were heavily involved in the Occult.
You could Say it was a Psuedo Nazi-Christianity, with lots of cutting out things in the Bible and writing more hateful things in its place :P

And Hitler was definitely an Occultist.

TO think History would have been different if the damn Art school had accepted him.

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2012, 10:10:39 PM »
Spoiler for The United Kingdom:
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland


Leader: Neville Chamberlain, King George VI


Territory: Controls all of England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar, Malta, Egypt, large portions of Land in Africa, South Africa, India, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, some of the Caribbean, the Falkland Islands and Burma



Nationality: Nearly Every ethnicity under the sun
Description of Nationality:

Population: 532 Million Across the Empire, mostly in India, including 47 million at home


Society: By this point in time British society resembles modern western society, with slight class divisions still apparent

Religion: Anglican, Hindu, Muslim, Catholic primarily


Government: Parliamentary Democracy
Economy: Free Market Capitalism


Military: The Armed forces of the United Kingdom are a small well trained professional force, the upper command is still influenced by world war one ideas however, except in the role of air power

Technology: The United Kingdom is on the leading edge for technologies such as cryptography, anti tank guns, air craft and ships and not too far behind germany in armored vehicle production

National Focus: The current national focus is on expanding the Royal Air Force


Background: The United Kingdom is currently the worlds leading power , controlling a quarter of the worlds surface and having one of the largest fleets in the world. Despite this their power is waning. World War One and the upkeep of the Empire have drained their economy, and successive pacifist governments have let the once mighty fleet languish. With the rise of new Superpowers like the USSR, USA and Germany its all England can do to keep their place in the world.



Alliances: France, and the semi autonomous nations like Canada, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand

Trading Agreements: England trades with most nations


Strengths: Well trained forces supported by a strong technological and industrial base, powerful navy and air force

Weakness: The high command is mostly aristocratic WW1 era fops, low in numbers, unwillingness to take large casualties


Best Infantry Unit: A young Captain David Stirling has this idea for a group of men called the SAS

Best Armoured Unit: While not yet in service, the Infantry tank Matilda mk II is one of the most heavily armored tanks in the world with 80mm frontal armor and the excellent 2pdr gun. However, new advances in technology may soon render it obsolete.

Best Naval Unit: The planned King George V class battleship, soon to enter service has 10 14 inch guns and thick armor, also mounts a modern fire control system unlike any seen in the world.

Best Airforce Unit: The Supermarine Spitfire

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2012, 10:11:31 PM »
What about this?

A very good sub machine gun, however their standard infantry rifle was a hold over from the Russo-Japanese war and they never really invented a modern stamped metal SMG, their small arms tech is behind, but not completely outdated
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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2012, 10:19:30 PM »
Hmm...I don't know anything of how Sweden was in 1938, except slightly Axis-supportive. And I really don't know how I'm supposed to find information about a country from that time that didn't even take a real part in the war.

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2012, 10:24:34 PM »
Hmm...I don't know anything of how Sweden was in 1938, except slightly Axis-supportive. And I really don't know how I'm supposed to find information about a country from that time that didn't even take a real part in the war.

Well there's google...but Crane might know something too.
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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2012, 10:25:33 PM »
Well there's google...but Crane might know something too.
I searched through three pages on Google without finding anything useful x|

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2012, 10:35:48 PM »
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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2012, 10:46:12 PM »
Wow, this is a lot of details to keep checked. Ah well, let's give it a try.

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2012, 10:54:39 PM »
Crane, if I would play as a not-so-neutral union of Finland and Sweden, about how big do you think my military would be, counting in men and vehicles? I can find models of vehicles and such by myself, but about how many toys should I have to play a moderately big role but still not go out of bounds?

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Re: OOC: Nations of the IV
« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2012, 12:34:52 AM »
Almost done with my sheet for the Empire of Japan, I'll finish it tomorrow.
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