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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2012, 09:54:36 PM »
Effective Military Strength. The final score that determines the ending you get.

Oh that.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2012, 10:23:11 PM »
Okay, watched. They take the end of ME3 from 'WTF is this utter crap' to 'Well, not what I was hoping for but I can live with this."
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2012, 10:24:57 PM »
Oh that.
Yeah. It was such a good idea to use it that most people call it "oh, that".

Translation, it was a dumb as gently-carress idea. Generalize everything into a numerical score so you don't have to handle "all the variables".

Anyways, the whole thing is such a display of thoughtlessness that I find it hard to throw money at them. (i.e. buy stuff).
Okay, watched. They take the end of ME3 from 'WTF is this utter crap' to 'Well, not what I was hoping for but I can live with this."
And therein lies the problem. We shouldn't have to "live with it". Is it enough for you to still buy stuff from Bioware?
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2012, 03:07:24 AM »
Is it good enough for me to buy a Bioware product again? Yes. Is it good enough to put them back into the 'must buy, sight unseen' territory? Most definitely not. They lost that status pretty much forever between ME3 and Old Republic.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2012, 03:13:17 AM »
Has everyone ever noticed; Bioware is great at starting excrement, but they can never seem to end it.

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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2012, 03:37:18 AM »
Has everyone ever noticed; Bioware is great at starting excrement, but they can never seem to end it.
Hmmmm...yes. Comes with being increasingly high profile.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2012, 04:33:59 AM »
Hmmmm...yes. Comes with being increasingly high profile.

I blame EA...they have a tendency to spoil good game companies. :dry:
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2012, 04:40:05 AM »
I blame EA...they have a tendency to spoil good game companies. :dry:
I blame EA. And Bioware itself. No one is ever blame-free in this kind of thing.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2012, 04:47:05 AM »
Whelp, finally done with ME since this is out. It's given closure to me.

Even if said closure was choosing Refuse and letting the next cycle wipe up.

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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2012, 07:43:29 AM »
Finally went through it and...bleh. What a fizzle. Not as much of a turd as before but, ugh.

I'm certainly not interested in "Retaking Omega" or the MP after what I've been served.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2012, 09:14:58 AM »
Ok, the first endings sucked, and these ones are better at least

The world has not ended, I know its a bit of a let down, but the game was still great, life goes on I guess. I'm not sure why some people are so mad about this, a game company went out of their way to change a crappy ending and people are still mad? This is unprecedented fan service and people are still up in arms?

Well anyway, better effort this time round BW
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2012, 07:59:33 PM »
First playtrough I did the Refusal by accident... I shot the catalyst at the end of the talking just to amuse myself and suddenly Harby was yelling at me.
I liked the (very short) scene in the end.

Second time I did destroy again (I also did it in my original playthrough) and still hope the Bioware will release an Indoctrination DLC. The new, extended endings are better but I'm still not statified with it.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2012, 02:33:16 PM »
Youtubed it and here's a pic to give my thought of it.






Dear EA/Bioware,
Things would be a lot better if you are wiped out from the face of the earth forever along with other excrementty big publishers. The industry deserves better than a bunch of money-grubbing sociopaths like you.


gently-carress you with a fury of a thousand suns and good day.


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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2012, 08:04:57 PM »
Youtubed it and here's a pic to give my thought of it.



Dear EA/Bioware,
Things would be a lot better if you are wiped out from the face of the earth forever along with other excrementty big publishers. The industry deserves better than a bunch of money-grubbing sociopaths like you.


gently-carress you with a fury of a thousand suns and good day.


Sincerely,
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Uh...you mad, bro?  I thought the new endings were much, much better.

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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2012, 08:08:13 PM »
Youtubed it and here's a pic to give my thought of it.


*snip*



Dear EA/Bioware,
Things would be a lot better if you are wiped out from the face of the earth forever along with other excrementty big publishers. The industry deserves better than a bunch of money-grubbing sociopaths like you.


gently-carress you with a fury of a thousand suns and good day.


Sincerely,
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i have to say, you're full of excrement  :P
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2012, 08:38:57 PM »
Uh...you mad, bro?  I thought the new endings were much, much better.
Better? Yes. Still badly written though. And manage to introduce new holes.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2012, 11:30:55 PM »
Better? Yes. Still badly written though. And manage to introduce new holes.
In some respects, yeah.  The Normandy evac scene fixes the teleporting squadmates but makes you wonder why Harbinger doesn't blast the Normandy out of the sky; the garden planet is effectively useless now beyond looking really, really pretty; synthesis still doesn't make any sense...but I still think they closed more plot holes than they opened, and between the music, the visuals, and the closure, the ending of the game is now satisfactory.

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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2012, 01:43:58 AM »
Seriously, what doesn't have plot holes?

Dear EA/Bioware,
Things would be a lot better if you are wiped out from the face of the earth forever along with other excrementty big publishers. The industry deserves better than a bunch of money-grubbing sociopaths like you.


gently-carress you with a fury of a thousand suns and good day.


Sincerely,
TKDude.


I think you may want to calm down and take a few deep breaths, and realize that the world has not ended, and indeed, billions of people are going on with their daily lives just fine. There's a whole bright world outside your window.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2012, 12:16:28 PM »
First of all, I'd like to apologize for being madface. (Paraphrasing Jean. :P)


My problem is the EC didn't delivered what I wanted. I wanted BW to re-do the ending from scratch, but I was willing to have them keep the original endings while they clarifying whatever the gently-carress they want if they added the refuse ending. I was trillion times angry when I saw the refuse ending's outcome is auto-fail no matter what.


All I wanted is refuse to compromise my moral values with Starbrat and have different outcomes depending on EMS. Was that really hard to do?
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2012, 01:05:33 PM »
I was trillion times angry when I saw the refuse ending's outcome is auto-fail no matter what.
Ah yes, that ending was a middle-finger if I ever saw one.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2012, 03:54:00 PM »
Ah yes, that ending was a middle-finger if I ever saw one.
Why?  Why on earth is everyone convinced that Bioware was saying "haha, gently-carress you, fans!" with that ending?  We were told REPEATEDLY that a conventional assault against the Reapers was a guaranteed failure.  Hackett knew it, Shepard knew it, everyone knew it.  The Crucible was literally our only chance at victory, and if Shepard can't make the choice, then it's up to the next cycle to do it.

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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2012, 04:28:39 PM »
Why?  Why on earth is everyone convinced that Bioware was saying "haha, gently-carress you, fans!" with that ending?  We were told REPEATEDLY that a conventional assault against the Reapers was a guaranteed failure.  Hackett knew it, Shepard knew it, everyone knew it.  The Crucible was literally our only chance at victory, and if Shepard can't make the choice, then it's up to the next cycle to do it.
Why go through the trouble of adding it in then? Did you seriously expect that gamers, being as diverse as they are, would universally accept this "rocks-fall-everyone-dies" (and don't tell me it isn't an ending of this particular type) if they decided not to end the game on the Catalyst's terms?

That BW decided to add that ending out of the blue seems more like an issue of rubbing that outcome in than anything else. It was already properly and overtly foreshadowed/predicted.

I think that one of the problems here is that people expected to have an "utter failure" ending due to a piss-poor performance, not due to a disagreement with the starchild. Or due to shooting it, as many people did and got that ending. (which was a funny surprise).
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2012, 06:26:36 PM »
Why?  Why on earth is everyone convinced that Bioware was saying "haha, gently-carress you, fans!" with that ending?  We were told REPEATEDLY that a conventional assault against the Reapers was a guaranteed failure.  Hackett knew it, Shepard knew it, everyone knew it.  The Crucible was literally our only chance at victory, and if Shepard can't make the choice, then it's up to the next cycle to do it.

Actually the only person that EVER says we can't beat them? Hackett. And considering his big plan was a charging line of ships...
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2012, 02:25:53 AM »
Actually the only person that EVER says we can't beat them? Hackett. And considering his big plan was a charging line of ships...

In his defense there's not actually that much you can do with naval tactics in the ME universe, and I wouldn't expect BW to be well versed in the particulars of naval warfare. We've been repeatedly told the reapers don't fight like other species, and that most conventional tactics don't work against them. Jutland is really your only answer here.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Releases on June 26th
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2012, 03:16:21 AM »
In his defense there's not actually that much you can do with naval tactics in the ME universe, and I wouldn't expect BW to be well versed in the particulars of naval warfare. We've been repeatedly told the reapers don't fight like other species, and that most conventional tactics don't work against them. Jutland is really your only answer here.

There's also the fact that Earth was really the only naval battle you see, besides a brief glimpse at Palaven. If you read the Codex entries and listen to some of the banter, you learn that the various races have pretty much used every tactic they knew, but they all ended up being irrelevant because the Reapers just shrugged off the damage. The charging line of ships was really all they could do, as it allowed them to make use of the entire fleet's firepower, which was all that mattered with the Reapers.
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