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Title: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: The Doctor on March 06, 2012, 09:30:58 AM
[float=left][attach=1][/float]Well folks, Mass Effect 3 has hit, and while I eagerly await reviews from those around here who have the game some reviews have started to hit from others.  Of particular interest are the Metacritic user reviews which are positively brutal netting the game 2.1, 2.3, and 4.1 out of 10 for the PC, PS3 and XBox360 respectively.  The industry reviews are also somewhat interesting with PC Gamer's review including the phrase "The end of the series is a mixed bag. Satisfying in some ways, nonsensical in others, and ultimately too simple." but giving it a 93/100...  That seems a bit off to me.

I personally can't speak to the games quality, most of you know my personal opinion and that I highly exaggerate it for comedic effect but the reality is that I have not and will not be playing the game so I can only give second hand opinions.  With this beating in user reviews and odd features in some industry views it does raise some eyebrows though.  Hopefully we can get a review from one of our locals soon though.

Source Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-3)
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Captain Jean-Luc on March 06, 2012, 12:04:35 PM
If we're being fair...when have user reviews EVER been an accurate judge of things when it comes to a controversial, big-budget release?  I'll have a Review In Progress probably, once I get my hands on it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 06, 2012, 12:30:21 PM
If we're being fair...when have user reviews EVER been an accurate judge of things when it comes to a controversial, big-budget release?  I'll have a Review In Progress probably, once I get my hands on it.

Looking forward to it Cap'n! Just remember we'll lynch you if you give it a bad re--- I mean we all eagerly anticipate your thoughts on it!

  :angel:
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 06, 2012, 12:38:06 PM
Looking forward to it Cap'n! Just remember we'll lynch you if you give it a bad re--- I mean we all eagerly anticipate your thoughts on it!

  :angel:
We'll lynch him anyway, so let him give his review.





This is obiouvsly a joke. :D

From what I've seen of the endings, they suck.


Also, make no mistake, people are going to try and score bomb this game.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Foxdonut on March 06, 2012, 01:15:16 PM
Haven't read a single valid user review of it yet, gameplay, storytelling, dialogue all blow the previous 2 games out of the water. There is nothing wrong with the game at all, and I wish people would whine less about the wallet crusade the EA has taken upon itself to subject us to. But please, show me something objective that doesn't have to do with, "ohgodwai day one dlc or money money money" that presents valid reasons why the game is bad and I'll be sure to read it.


Side note, captain if you want any review material or help let me know, gladly proofread, add to, whatever you know.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 06, 2012, 01:50:02 PM
Jeez...1 gigabyte for art books alone...
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Savakka1 on March 06, 2012, 01:58:00 PM
Yep. Shall see soon enough what I will think about this game. Endings have definitely raised some consern from me, but I will form a more complete opinion after I have played the game and thought about it more.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: LordNecross on March 06, 2012, 06:38:51 PM
As soon as I have the monies to throw I will get it. I am not pleased with the whole DLC thing, since it is just bad business, but i would like to finish this game series.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Mukora on March 06, 2012, 07:39:38 PM
One thing I seem to be seeing is that most people are letting their entire opinion rest on the ending.

While, no, I don't know anything about the ending, and it could be the biggest pile of excrement ever, it still seems a bit ridiculous to ignore everything else about the game just because you don't like how it ends.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 06, 2012, 08:11:28 PM
One thing I seem to be seeing is that most people are letting their entire opinion rest on the ending.

While, no, I don't know anything about the ending, and it could be the biggest pile of excrement ever, it still seems a bit ridiculous to ignore everything else about the game just because you don't like how it ends.

I wouldn't say they were letting their entire opinion rest on the ending...but for some people I can see it being a big deal for them.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: The Doctor on March 06, 2012, 08:14:04 PM
If we're being fair...when have user reviews EVER been an accurate judge of things when it comes to a controversial, big-budget release?  I'll have a Review In Progress probably, once I get my hands on it.

This is true, but usually there are a bit more immediate 10's given to balance out the immediate zero's.

Also the PC Gamer review really talks about excrement they don't like the whole way through... And then gives it 93/100 at the end.  Now I'm okay with them not liking it.  I'm okay with them giving it 93/100.  But their review doesn't match their score.

One thing I seem to be seeing is that most people are letting their entire opinion rest on the ending.

While, no, I don't know anything about the ending, and it could be the biggest pile of excrement ever, it still seems a bit ridiculous to ignore everything else about the game just because you don't like how it ends.

To be fair the ending is kinda important.  When I go to a movie or read a book if the ending blows I'm not going to give a good review.  In some games this is less true.  UT for example: Who cares about the ending of the story?  But the Mass Effect series is built on story and characters which means you have to have a good story and part of a good story is a good ending.  When you have a bad ending it puts cracks into the rest of the story.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Mukora on March 06, 2012, 08:36:40 PM
Well, yeah, the ending is important, but it isn't the only thing that matters.

Especially with games.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: The Doctor on March 06, 2012, 08:50:38 PM
Well, yeah, the ending is important, but it isn't the only thing that matters.

Especially with games.

True but in a series so steeped in story a poor ending really would sour the rest.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: LordNecross on March 06, 2012, 08:52:43 PM
If the story makes me have any care at all for the characters and the series as a whole, if it strums my hearts strings in any sense, then its worth my time.

The ending sucking is another story.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Mukora on March 06, 2012, 08:59:24 PM
@Doc: Eh... even so, if the rest of the story is good, I won't really care.

And I liked DAII, so I'll probably like ME3's ending. Poor taste, ahoy!
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 07, 2012, 02:32:49 AM
And I liked DAII, so I'll probably like ME3's ending. Poor taste, ahoy!
Jumping jeepers...you liked DA2.

I found it quite grating on the nerves.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Mukora on March 07, 2012, 07:27:50 PM
As I said, poor taste, ahoy!

But really, I get why a lot of people don't like DAII, I just don't really give a damn. To me, it's a good game, with a good story, and good characters, that's just a bit rough around the edges.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: LordNecross on March 07, 2012, 08:44:05 PM
As I said, poor taste, ahoy!

But really, I get why a lot of people don't like DAII, I just don't really give a damn. To me, it's a good game, with a good story, and good characters, that's just a bit rough around the edges.
You aren't alone I liked DAII as well. I mean when it came to story and such, but I didn't like the redundancy of maps.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 07, 2012, 08:53:15 PM
the redundancy of maps.
This was my main gripe with it. This, and quest bugs. And the lack of variety in regards to places where the game takes you.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Mukora on March 07, 2012, 08:57:59 PM
... Really? I don't really see how recycling maps is ''that'' big of an issue.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: LordNecross on March 07, 2012, 09:05:39 PM
... Really? I don't really see how recycling maps is ''that'' big of an issue.
I don't mind it per say..... but I do mind that their wasn't more unique maps. It got really redundant. During the start of the game i didn't care but as i got more into it I got tired of seeing the same maps over and over.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 07, 2012, 09:16:21 PM
... Really? I don't really see how recycling maps is ''that'' big of an issue.
First the maps became boring, then grating and then downright annoying. Seeing that all caves were the same maps with just a radomized placement of entrace, exit and closed doors was enough to make me almost skip over any sort of quest that involved caves.

The rest just made the game sorta boring. I think the game took too much time in Kirkwall. Just one single city, a excrementload of caves just like each other, 2 or 3 outside areas.

The parts i liked the most were the expeditions into the Deep Roads. But that was it. The game should've had more of the deep roads, MUCH more of the fade, more cities, etc.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 08, 2012, 01:26:32 AM
I don't mind it per say..... but I do mind that their wasn't more unique maps. It got really redundant. During the start of the game i didn't care but as i got more into it I got tired of seeing the same maps over and over.

excrement I felt that way about Mass Effect. The story and exploration kept it going for me, but it got really old when all the maps looked the same. Generic ice planet number 1 or Generic Volcanic planet number 4 etc. The only break from that was the primary missions.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 08, 2012, 12:57:06 PM
First the maps became boring, then grating and then downright annoying. Seeing that all caves were the same maps with just a radomized placement of entrace, exit and closed doors was enough to make me almost skip over any sort of quest that involved caves.

The rest just made the game sorta boring. I think the game took too much time in Kirkwall. Just one single city, a excrementload of caves just like each other, 2 or 3 outside areas.

The parts i liked the most were the expeditions into the Deep Roads. But that was it. The game should've had more of the deep roads, MUCH more of the fade, more cities, etc.
I'm starting to get annoyed with all the Cerberus missions... Hell, I just got off of the
level where Cerberus Attacked the Citadel  -- Oh and on that note,  I mean seriously, how the hell are they suppose to take over the largest space station in the galaxy in a few minutes. Also wtf Udina being a spy for Cerberus?! I've said it before; but it was more joking at the fact of it
At this point I'm getting tired of all the Cerberus being in every gently-carressing spot of the game. You literally can't walk three steps without hitting one a platoon of them.

... on the side note though, there are some funny parts... EDI giving Jeff "Moral Support, Tuchunka having not only the Genophage; but the thresher-maw to end all thresher-maws , A giant Reaper, Reaper Rachnii, a few hundred Cerberus soldiers, and a giant planet destroying bomb
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 08, 2012, 02:42:13 PM
Also wtf Udina being a spy for Cerberus?! I've said it before; but it was more joking at the fact of it
He's indoctrinated. Or so it seems.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 08, 2012, 06:31:39 PM
He's indoctrinated. Or so it seems.
Of course, Its a stupid plot device though... He hasn't been anywhere but on the citadel, How is he Indoctrinated.
Anyways, Still hating cerberus... and I hope the main story line is longer than it seems to be... I already united the Krogans and the Turians, and the Asari, and the Salarians... And most of that was done in a single mission. I'm already running off of disk two -.-
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 08, 2012, 06:57:08 PM
Of course, Its a stupid plot device though... He hasn't been anywhere but on the citadel, How is he Indoctrinated.
Anyways, Still hating cerberus... and I hope the main story line is longer than it seems to be... I already united the Krogans and the Turians, and the Asari, and the Salarians... And most of that was done in a single mission. I'm already running off of disk two -.-
We didn't know TIM was indoctrinated until that comic about him. Similarly, Udina could have been indoctrinated ages ago, as some sort of mole. It is a dumb notion though, I know. Pretty much pulling stuff out of the ass.

Gameplay time, if you do just the main quest, is just under 20 hours or so. Doing everything in the game takes it up to around 40. Much less than the usual 60 of RPGs. I guess they're counting on the majority of players clocking around 20 hours in MP at least.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 08, 2012, 07:14:20 PM
We didn't know TIM was indoctrinated until that comic about him. Similarly, Udina could have been indoctrinated ages ago, as some sort of mole. It is a dumb notion though, I know. Pretty much pulling stuff out of the ass.

Gameplay time, if you do just the main quest, is just under 20 hours or so. Doing everything in the game takes it up to around 40. Much less than the usual 60 of RPGs. I guess they're counting on the majority of players clocking around 20 hours in MP at least.
Still, I was able to unite every one in 3 missions. All I had to do was go to the Turian Homeplanet, Grab the Krogan, then head out to Tuchinka. After that I had all the main races united. All I have to do now is go see the Quarians, find the Rachnii and I'm good.

I would have expected much more missions in the mains story. Mass Effect 2 had more -.-
...Hopefully the side-quests don't continue to be the same copy/past it has been so far
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Mukora on March 08, 2012, 07:40:07 PM
Note that "running off disk two" doesn't actually mean you're near the end. One of my friends told me he was swapping disks like every other mission.

Also, ME2 was forty hours as well, and ME1 was only 20 if you did everything.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: RobotNixon on March 08, 2012, 11:12:59 PM
The game was wonderful all the way up to the end.
And then I felt massively trolled.

My main critiques are as follows:
1) This has more to do with the hole BioWare wrote itself into from the beginning, but it just feels like you never get the chance to get out and explore like you did in the last two games. In fact the Reaper evasion minigame actively discourages it.
2) From the beginning you're hemmed into a very rigid course of action, and in the end it just feels like all of your decisions and sacrifices, your bitter fight for survival, were for nothing. The Mass Relays blow up no matter which path you take, effectively ending galactic civilization for the forseeable future. Now I've got a bunch of turians, asari, quarians, sapient geth, genophageless krogan, and salarians stranded in the Sol system, and worst of all my loved ones on the Normandy are at the ass end of nowhere beyond the destroyed relays. Maybe somebody will come up with a way to create new ones, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Speaking of breath, I don't even know if Shepard is alive or dead, be it corpreal or ethereal.
3) As great as all the silly interactions recalling jokes made on various forum sites were, some of them felt a bit forced. That being said I absolutely loved Garrus' Shooting Contest and Drunk Tali.
4) Cerberus is gently-carressing evil! Big surprise. And TIM's Saren-esque demise was a bit cliche'd in my opinion. Does everyone who gets indoctrinated, and then subsequently exorcised by Shepard really need to slowly place a heavy pistol against their head and with severe languish, pull the trigger? At least he didn't come back as a husk.
5) Yeah, multiplayer is pretty much necessary. They told you it wasn't but they lied. That readiness level goes up higher from taking your quarian engineer and carving through a few platoons of Cerberus goons than it ever will as Shepard playing galactic peace maker. That said the multiplayer is hella fun.

All said and done, I was completely enthralled and this is one of the best games I'll ever play, despite the lackluster Deus Ex ending, despite all these perceived faults.
Here's hoping we don't get any excrementty prequels or Mass Effect: Invisible War.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 09, 2012, 01:27:18 AM
He's indoctrinated. Or so it seems.

Possibly. However more likely Illusive Man offered him a deal. Probably played the "this is best for Humanity" card.

On that note however, I'm convinced Dr. Tran is indoctirnated. We'll have to kill him to be safe.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 09, 2012, 08:12:17 AM
Too bad the MP side of it is quite vulnerable to lag. I've got booted off of a match at least twice due to "Losing connection to EA's servers". And yes, I could browse the internet alright. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: RobotNixon on March 09, 2012, 05:14:53 PM
I know right? It always seems to boot me off right in the middle of wave 10, after I've used a missile launcher and a medigel.
Also, they had a great opportunity to include some sort of storyline with the multiplayer. I was almost certain there was going to be based on the end of the Special Forces trailer.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 09, 2012, 07:43:04 PM
Holy Crap Bioware... Fix your excrement! I'm playing on 360 and I keep on getting Lag Spikes over EVERYTHING. I installed my game to the hard drive, and it still takes more than 45 seconds to load up the save. On top of that, if I die it essentially goes to a black screen where it wont show or do anything. To fix it I have to press the guide button, wait 20 seconds because it freezes, then hit B once it shows up just for it to start updating the screen again. On the Citadel, or on the Normandy its taking me 45+ seconds to pass the loading screen.

I have tried the game with and without it installed to the HDD and its only worse without the HDD. I have tried it on my other console as well and same results. Seriously Bioware. Fix Your excrement
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Mukora on March 09, 2012, 07:45:39 PM
Really?

No one else I've talked to has had that issue.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 09, 2012, 07:53:28 PM
Really?

No one else I've talked to has had that issue.
Its terrible. It completely takes you out of the action whenever you die or make a wrong move. I can't even play as vanguard anymore because I'm too afraid to die and have to go through the stupid loading screen, then the freezing, then hopefully the recover. Shepard has been reduced to standing back and killing things with her Pistol/Assault Riffle instead of in the fight, constantly charging and shotgunning people in the face.

...Also My imported Shepard wasn't aloud to keep her Auburn Hair Colour, so now its some stupid mix of light/dark brown :'(
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 09, 2012, 08:02:12 PM
Its terrible. It completely takes you out of the action whenever you die or make a wrong move. I can't even play as vanguard anymore because I'm too afraid to die and have to go through the stupid loading screen, then the freezing, then hopefully the recover. Shepard has been reduced to standing back and killing things with her Pistol/Assault Riffle instead of in the fight, constantly charging and shotgunning people in the face.

...Also My imported Shepard wasn't aloud to keep her Auburn Hair Colour, so now its some stupid mix of light/dark brown :'(
Is it an old model 360 or the new slim one?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: JDog2pt0 on March 09, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
So far my experience is that the dialog has been cut painfully back. I'm sitting there thinking as Shepard is going on and on that, usually I'd be picking what to say lol. (Yes I have it set so that I make every conversation decision)
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 09, 2012, 09:02:05 PM
Yeah dialog is somewhat downgraded a bit. Pretty much though the only problem I had was not being able to import my Shepard's original face. Not that it mattered much, because he actually looks better now and I was still able to import my choices.

The only thing about ME3 I don't like right now is that I can only affect Galactic Readiness through multiplayer. It makes sense that it's that way I  suppose, but it would've been nice to do that in singleplayer.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Mukora on March 09, 2012, 09:04:07 PM
Quote
The only thing about ME3 I don't like right now is that I can only affect Galactic Readiness through multiplayer. It makes sense that it's that way I  suppose, but it would've been nice to do that in singleplayer.
Ehwha?

Can you elaborate?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: LordNecross on March 09, 2012, 09:06:15 PM
Yeah dialog is somewhat downgraded a bit. Pretty much though the only problem I had was not being able to import my Shepard's original face. Not that it mattered much, because he actually looks better now and I was still able to import my choices.

The only thing about ME3 I don't like right now is that I can only affect Galactic Readiness through multiplayer. It makes sense that it's that way I  suppose, but it would've been nice to do that in singleplayer.
Galactic readiness is a Multiplayer only feature. A perfect ending is still capable of being done in single player without this.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 09, 2012, 09:09:46 PM
Ehwha?

Can you elaborate?

Come now, you know...Galactic Readiness. You must've seen it, it's on the main menu screen. The little tool you can use to see how ready the Galaxy is for the counter-attack. I'm kinda miffed that the only way to change it is through multiplayer. If you just stick to singleplayer then Galactic Readiness is just stuck on 50% the entire time.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: JDog2pt0 on March 09, 2012, 09:11:57 PM
Galactic readiness is a Multiplayer only feature. A perfect ending is still capable of being done in single player without this.

Well, Gibbed(?) is working on a Mass Effect 3 save editor so hopefully the readiness stuff is saved in there and I'll just be able to tweak it to my liking. I'd play multiplayer BUT the game is my dads and he's going to register it to his origin account. He hasn't setup up his Origin account yet, so being my impatient self I just torrented a copy and I've been playing that. When he gets his account made, I may uncrack the game (if I can without too much trouble).
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 09, 2012, 09:12:40 PM
Galactic readiness is a Multiplayer only feature. A perfect ending is still capable of being done in single player without this.

Oh I know that, but I've got over 3000 in war assets and only being able to use half that due to my Galactic rating. Multiplayer also works like ass for me, so I'm pretty much stuck with it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Mukora on March 09, 2012, 09:17:16 PM
Come now, you know...Galactic Readiness. You must've seen it, it's on the main menu screen. The little tool you can use to see how ready the Galaxy is for the counter-attack. I'm kinda miffed that the only way to change it is through multiplayer. If you just stick to singleplayer then Galactic Readiness is just stuck on 50% the entire time.
/me hasn't played ME3 yet because his Xbox is broked.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 09, 2012, 09:41:27 PM
/me hasn't played ME3 yet because his Xbox is broked.

...Oh

Well don't worry, I didn't spoil anything really.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 09, 2012, 09:54:17 PM
Is it an old model 360 or the new slim one?
I've tried on both my old and my slim only to the same result
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 09, 2012, 11:44:28 PM
I've tried on both my old and my slim only to the same result
Blimey, that's bad.

If you just stick to singleplayer then Galactic Readiness is just stuck on 50% the entire time.
My readiness multiplier is on 100% right now.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Tobbs on March 10, 2012, 12:45:33 AM
Well, I got the game today. Still can't play until Sunday, that's when I get access to an Xbox.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 10, 2012, 02:31:29 AM
My readiness multiplier is on 100% right now.

What!? How did you get that? Did you NOT play multi or is there some game option I'm unaware of...?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 10, 2012, 07:12:59 PM
Really annoyed with the ending

I do everything right, In all the games. I scan all the planets to max, Complete all the missions, Have every single race in the galaxy with me. United both the Quarians and the Geth...

... And all for nothing. In the end; no matter what choice you make. Shepard Dies.
*sigh*
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: phonypapercut on March 10, 2012, 08:20:43 PM
Really annoyed with the ending

I do everything right, In all the games. I scan all the planets to max, Complete all the missions, Have every single race in the galaxy with me. United both the Quarians and the Geth...

... And all for nothing. In the end; no matter what choice you make. Shepard Dies.
*sigh*
Not quite. He lives in the destroy ending if you have 4000 or 5000 EMS, depending on whether you persuade TIM or not.

Also, Shep dying doesn't make it all for nothing.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 10, 2012, 08:29:41 PM
Not quite. He lives in the destroy ending if you have 4000 or 5000 EMS, depending on whether you persuade TIM or not.

Also, Shep dying doesn't make it all for nothing.
I had 5000, Still didn't get it.... Even then, its only a breath and Galactic Civilization is still destroyed. Everyone is still on Earth.  There is no closure
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 11, 2012, 01:12:09 AM
What!? How did you get that? Did you NOT play multi or is there some game option I'm unaware of...?
MP of course.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 11, 2012, 01:13:16 AM
I had 5000, Still didn't get it.... Even then, its only a breath and Galactic Civilization is still destroyed. Everyone is still on Earth.  There is no closure
War assets or effective military strength?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 11, 2012, 03:00:15 AM
War assets or effective military strength?
EMS
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 11, 2012, 04:38:15 AM
EMS
Hmmmmmm...did you get TIM to kill himself? Also, I've seen some people saying that the conversation with TIM can affect your assets negatively depending on choices.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 11, 2012, 06:31:37 AM
Hmmmmmm...did you get TIM to kill himself? Also, I've seen some people saying that the conversation with TIM can affect your assets negatively depending on choices.
Yep, Chose the left side options for every choice too. Anderson Survived
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 11, 2012, 07:41:06 AM
Yep, Chose the left side options for every choice too. Anderson Survived
oh boy, you should've seen that little scene, unless it's the so called thing that only pops up in NG+ ... x|
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 11, 2012, 04:33:13 PM
oh boy, you should've seen that little scene, unless it's the so called thing that only pops up in NG+ ... x|
I've seen it on YouTube. From what I've seen, the endings are universally hated. It sucks because the rest of the game was good... Just that one part...

If it appears in NG+ It wil be hard playing the game again knowing that none of my personal chooses matter on the end. How it's basically the same ending with a different color
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: JDog2pt0 on March 12, 2012, 10:09:03 AM
Ending of ME3 summed up

Godkid is a lie

Too much arm waving and space magic with no explanation
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 13, 2012, 12:40:30 AM
You know I have to ask...is Tali really only a temporary squaddie? Or does she decide to stay on? I mean I've pretty disappointed with the rekindled romance so far...and if Rannoch is the final mission before the counter-attack I'm gently-carressed.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: phonypapercut on March 13, 2012, 01:10:34 AM
You know I have to ask...is Tali really only a temporary squaddie? Or does she decide to stay on? I mean I've pretty disappointed with the rekindled romance so far...and if Rannoch is the final mission before the counter-attack I'm gently-carressed.
She stays. And no, it's not the final mission.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 13, 2012, 01:25:06 AM
She stays. And no, it's not the final mission.

*phew* That's good, now I can complete the 101 side-missions needed for my perfect ending.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: The Doctor on March 13, 2012, 11:30:40 AM
*phew* That's good, now I can complete the 101 side-missions needed for my perfect ending.

Perfect.

HA!
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 13, 2012, 05:09:51 PM
Here's a good one someone posted on our other site:

"An awesome ice cream with a dog turd at the bottom. "

I think it fits perfectly.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: JDog2pt0 on March 13, 2012, 06:47:21 PM
Link to the "every one who doesn't like the ending thread" http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9512916/965 (http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9512916/965) (SPOILER HEAVY)
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 13, 2012, 06:47:21 PM
For the curious:
Requiem for EA/BioWare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRRpGlmtws8#ws)
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: JDog2pt0 on March 13, 2012, 06:48:27 PM
For the curious:
Requiem for EA/BioWare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRRpGlmtws8#ws)

Yes, I saw that. But you know what? They shipped it with the game anyways. All I had to do was get a crack to unlock it.

Also, to anyone who can't/won't play online to get the 5000+ points for a perfect ending, I can show you how to do it via save edit (PC only).
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 13, 2012, 06:50:39 PM
Yes, I saw that. But you know what? They shipped it with the game anyways. All I had to do was get a crack to unlock it.

Also, to anyone who can't/won't play online to get the 5000+ points for a perfect ending, I can show you how to do it via save edit (PC only).
Gibbed editor?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: JDog2pt0 on March 13, 2012, 06:56:36 PM
Gibbed editor?

Correct, http://svn.gib.me/builds/masseffect3/ (http://svn.gib.me/builds/masseffect3/)
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 13, 2012, 07:11:04 PM
Correct, http://svn.gib.me/builds/masseffect3/ (http://svn.gib.me/builds/masseffect3/)
Oh my, didn't know there was one for me3 already.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 14, 2012, 12:24:12 AM
Really? Is it THAT bad?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: JDog2pt0 on March 14, 2012, 01:15:07 AM
Really? Is it THAT bad?

Referring too....

By the way, I love your avatar. I wish he'd make more Gone with the Blastwave, but oddly enough I think of Romantically Apocalyptic more than GwtB when I see it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 14, 2012, 01:29:55 AM
Referring too....

By the way, I love your avatar. I wish he'd make more Gone with the Blastwave, but oddly enough I think of Romantically Apocalyptic more than GwtB when I see it.

ME3 ending...

Thanks, not sure what GwtB is though. I just thought the pic looked hilarious :D
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: JDog2pt0 on March 14, 2012, 01:33:42 AM
ME3 ending...

Thanks, not sure what GwtB is though. I just thought the pic looked hilarious :D

Did you check out the bioware link I posted then?

"Gone with the Blastwave" it's a comic. Funny too http://www.blastwave-comic.com/index.php?p=comic&nro=1 (http://www.blastwave-comic.com/index.php?p=comic&nro=1)
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 14, 2012, 01:59:31 AM
Did you check out the bioware link I posted then?

"Gone with the Blastwave" it's a comic. Funny too http://www.blastwave-comic.com/index.php?p=comic&nro=1 (http://www.blastwave-comic.com/index.php?p=comic&nro=1)

Well I haven't beaten it yet...so I don't want spoilers. Also I just heard a bunch of gamers are signing a petition to have Bioware change the ending, so I guess it must been pretty excrementey then?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: The Doctor on March 14, 2012, 03:34:19 AM
Really? Is it THAT bad?

Yes.  It is that bad.  Here is how you get the one good ending in the game:  When you see the white platform hit alt-f4.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: JDog2pt0 on March 14, 2012, 04:45:00 AM
Yes.  It is that bad.  Here is how you get the one good ending in the game:  When you see the white platform hit alt-f4.

(http://i.qkme.me/36l0k0.jpg)

They thought they could stop me from linking an image by placing a gif frame over it. Bitches don't know 'bout my Firebug.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 14, 2012, 05:36:17 AM
Ok, beat it with perfect paragon ending. I don't see the problem. Crucible destroys Reapers. Earth survives. Anderson saved. TIM dies. Tali runs into Shepard's arms. Shepard says something about them having a future now.

What did you guys get?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: killer rin on March 14, 2012, 05:51:13 AM
Ok, beat it with perfect paragon ending. I don't see the problem. Crucible destroys Reapers. Earth survives. Anderson saved. TIM dies. Tali runs into Shepard's arms. Shepard says something about them having a future now.

What did you guys get?
Welcome to the 1st stage of Denial. Have a nice stay  :cry:
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: JDog2pt0 on March 14, 2012, 05:51:25 AM
Ok, beat it with perfect paragon ending. I don't see the problem. Crucible destroys Reapers. Earth survives. Anderson saved. TIM dies. Tali runs into Shepard's arms. Shepard says something about them having a future now.

What did you guys get?

Troll...just...just isn't enough. I need something more...
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 14, 2012, 06:30:31 AM
Troll...just...just isn't enough. I need something more...
Welcome to the 1st stage of Denial. Have a nice stay  :cry:

Well don't say I never tried :P
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 14, 2012, 12:19:26 PM
Wow...and here I was really REALLY hoping you guys were just being picky. But you're right, the ending sucked ass.
 
Kill all synthetics. Mindwash Reapers. Or fuse everyone together. Brilliant Bioware, just frigging brilliant.


Now not only does the ending seem worthless, but now I'm also going to have to endure Dr. Tran prancing about saying "told you so".

I just hope they listen to all the collective groaning and complaints, and make a friggin Alternate Ending Package DLC. excrement, I'm more than willing to pay for it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Tairis Deamhan on March 14, 2012, 01:48:33 PM

Now not only does the ending seem worthless, but now I'm also going to have to endure Dr. Tran prancing about saying "told you so".


Well let's be honest... Tran would have done that no matter what for some reason. He's insufferable like that. Now he's just also morally justified.  ;D
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: The Doctor on March 14, 2012, 03:14:51 PM
Wow...and here I was really REALLY hoping you guys were just being picky. But you're right, the ending sucked ass.
 
Kill all synthetics. Mindwash Reapers. Or fuse everyone together. Brilliant Bioware, just frigging brilliant.


Now not only does the ending seem worthless, but now I'm also going to have to endure Dr. Tran prancing about saying "told you so".

I just hope they listen to all the collective groaning and complaints, and make a friggin Alternate Ending Package DLC. excrement, I'm more than willing to pay for it.

Told you so.

Well let's be honest... Tran would have done that no matter what for some reason. He's insufferable like that. Now he's just also morally justified.  ;D

I has a smug.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 14, 2012, 03:27:53 PM
Told you so.

I has a smug.
You forgot the "prancing about" part.

/me waits to see if Tran will prance about like that.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 15, 2012, 12:09:11 AM
You forgot the "prancing about" part.

/me waits to se if Tran will prance about like that.

*Grif readies a bat just in case*
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: The Doctor on March 15, 2012, 02:52:46 AM
You forgot the "prancing about" part.

/me waits to se if Tran will prance about like that.

/me prances about smugly
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 15, 2012, 02:57:36 AM
/me prances about smugly

/me starts beating The Doctor with a bat
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: mikethor007 on March 15, 2012, 03:41:52 AM
/me starts beating The Doctor with a bat
Foul!
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: The Doctor on March 15, 2012, 08:23:39 AM
/me starts beating The Doctor with a bat

I'm immune to bats.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Grif101 on March 15, 2012, 08:28:16 AM
I'm immune to bats.

...Dammit.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 3 User Review... Not so hot
Post by: Rakia_Time on March 15, 2012, 09:07:07 AM
I'm immune to bats.

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